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[MaM]

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Review This!
'Supergroup' is fresh, real
El Paso Times Staff



"Review This!" is a column devoted to reviewing everything and anything -- music, food, television shows, movies, whatever crosses the path of the reviewer. If you want anything -- and we mean anything -- reviewed, contact the person named at the bottom of the review.

THIS WEEK'S REVIEW:

VH1's "Supergroup"

Reality shows long ago stopped being "real." Ever since the third season of "The Real World," reality shows have had stars who are playing to the cameras in one way or another.

That's why it's refreshing to see the VH-1's "Supergroup," which follows five heavy metal stars thrown together in a house with the task of playing a one-off gig in 10 days and recording a CD -- or at least one new original song -- if possible. These guys don't have a concept of having a filter button on themselves.

The group consists of Ted Nugent, guitar; Scott Ian of Anthrax, guitar; Sebastian Bach, formerly of Skid Row, vocals; Evan Seinfeld of Biohazard, bass; and Jason Bonham of Foreigner, drums.

Initially, the guys can't get enough of each other. They enjoy jamming, and everybody is willing to try the others' musical ideas.

That will work only for so long before time has run out and the concert is a train wreck and the music is "eh."

Alpha male extraordinaire Nugent naturally tries to be the chief of the operation, but it's hard for the other

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Review This!
'Supergroup' is fresh, real
El Paso Times Staff



"Review This!" is a column devoted to reviewing everything and anything -- music, food, television shows, movies, whatever crosses the path of the reviewer. If you want anything -- and we mean anything -- reviewed, contact the person named at the bottom of the review.

THIS WEEK'S REVIEW:

VH1's "Supergroup"

Reality shows long ago stopped being "real." Ever since the third season of "The Real World," reality shows have had stars who are playing to the cameras in one way or another.

That's why it's refreshing to see the VH-1's "Supergroup," which follows five heavy metal stars thrown together in a house with the task of playing a one-off gig in 10 days and recording a CD -- or at least one new original song -- if possible. These guys don't have a concept of having a filter button on themselves.

The group consists of Ted Nugent, guitar; Scott Ian of Anthrax, guitar; Sebastian Bach, formerly of Skid Row, vocals; Evan Seinfeld of Biohazard, bass; and Jason Bonham of Foreigner, drums.

Initially, the guys can't get enough of each other. They enjoy jamming, and everybody is willing to try the others' musical ideas.

That will work only for so long before time has run out and the concert is a train wreck and the music is "eh."

Alpha male extraordinaire Nugent naturally tries to be the chief of the operation, but it's hard for the other


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four to relinquish control.

If that weren't enough drama, then people's feelings start getting hurt. Bach and Seinfeld get in a fight with a sound engineer on the show because they want to have the TV show's audio recording gear somehow turned into a recording studio.

Sounds perfect until instruments aren't heard on the demo and feedback occurs as Bach tries to lay down a vocal track.

Then Seinfeld organizes a group dinner with the publicists for some quality bonding. Bonham misses it because of two previously scheduled concerts with Foreigner, Bach bails to finish a song, and Nugent just doesn't feel like going and ends up at a club playing the blues with a young gun.

Tune in at 8 p.m. Sundays on cable Channel 69 to see if the band will make it through as Seinfeld and Bach get in a physical fight. Seinfeld apparently walks out on the show. See if they choose Fist or Celebutard to be the band's name.

Leonard Martinez may be reached at [e-mail]; 546-6152.

[Acekicken]

I have that here in the updates lol

[MaM]

didn't see this. there's lots of doubling going on. lots of clean up for josh to do.

[bazgirl]

Here is a New York Times article on Supergroup:

www.nytimes.com/2006/06/08/arts/music/08sann.html:


Critic's Notebook
VH1's 'SuperGroup': Rock 'n' Roll Meets Reality TV

By KELEFA SANNEH

Published: June 8, 2006

"This ain't 'American Idol,' " says Sebastian Bach, former lead screecher for Skid Row, and he is right. On "American Idol," the aspirants performed with the guys from Queen. And on VH1's new reality show, "SuperGroup," Mr. Bach performs with the guy from the Amboy Dukes. Maybe the difference isn't quite as big as he thinks it is.

"SuperGroup" is emerging as a small but growing hit; according to VH1, last week's episode attracted 29 percent more viewers than the one before. Episodes are rerun constantly on VH1 and VH1 Classic, and Mr. Bach's blithe pronouncements only improve with repetition. (One classic line, uttered while changing into leather and eyeliner for a photo shoot: "Baby, I'm a glam a-fishy-ahn-doh.")

Along with "American Idol," "Rock Star: INXS" last summer and this summer's "Rock Star: Supernova" (starring Tommy Lee), "SuperGroup" is yet more proof of an odd, somewhat anachronistic trend. Old-fashioned rock 'n' roll is finding a comfortable home on reality TV.

The former Amboy Duke alongside Mr. Bach is Ted Nugent, the veteran guitarist and inveterate loudmouth. The two are joined by three bandmates who used to be big, sort of. (It's just the concerts that got small.) The rhythm guitarist is Scott Ian from the metal band Anthrax; the bassist is Evan Seinfeld, formerly of the rap-rock pioneers Biohazard. And the drummer is Jason Bonham, from — well, mainly from his father, John, the legendary Led Zeppelin drummer, who died in 1980.

These rock stars — some of them are more like asteroids — are cocooned in a Las Vegas mansion for two weeks, left alone (unless you count the manager, the personal chef, the stylist, the dual publicists, the visiting wives and, of course, the camera crew) to form a band.

A concert has been booked; now all they have to do is write a song or two, choose some covers, rehearse and pick a band name. The final choice is Damnocracy, but on the next episode — to be broadcast this Sunday at 10, Eastern time — Mr. Bach makes an energetic case for Savage Animal. "It just rolls off my tongue," he keeps saying, and his bandmates let their eyebrows deliver the verdict.

For years it seemed obvious that the sound of reality television was light R & B, or teen-pop.

The first "Making the Band" followed the guileless guys from O-Town. (One former member, Ashley Parker Angel, recently returned with a solo album and a new reality show, "There and Back.") The first season of "American Idol" produced a belter (Kelly Clarkson) and a crooner (Justin Guarini). Even on "The Osbournes," the main musical story wasn't about the doddering metalhead Ozzy Osbourne; it was about his daughter, Kelly, who has tried and failed — twice — to start a career as a teen-pop star. The Osbourne empire eventually gave way to the Simpson empire: Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey were "Newlyweds"; Jessica's sister starred in "The Ashlee Simpson Show."

But by last year the rules were changing. "American Idol" produced a couple of popular — but not popular enough — rocker contestants, Constantine Maroulis and Bo Bice, long-haired dudes who never let us forget that they had played in real bands, man. On "Rock Star," the members of INXS auditioned potential lead singers as if they were casting a touring musical; in a sense, they were. And Kelly Clarkson beat emo bands at their own game with her guitar-enhanced smash, "Since U Been Gone."

As it happens, most of the "SuperGroup" guys have been seen as well as heard: they're not just music veterans but television veterans, too. Mr. Bach and his wife, Maria Bach, appeared on a memorable VH1 program, "I Married ... Sebastian Bach"; he also has a role on "Gilmore Girls." Mr. Ian has spent time as the host of VH1's "Rock Show." Mr. Nugent taught people how to hunt in "Surviving Nugent."

Still, for lots of rock stars, there's still a vague antipathy toward reality television: it seems somehow frivolous, especially when compared with the solemn tradition of men in tight trousers howling about loose women. On the Ozzfest tour last year, Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden started a feud with Mr. Osbourne by claiming that real heavy-metal stars don't need reality shows. And during an episode of "SuperGroup Post Show," a roundtable discussion that is broadcast on VH1 Classic, Mr. Bach mentioned Ashlee Simpson and was promptly interrupted by Mr. Seinfeld: "Don't ever say that name."

In fact, an ambivalence about the importance of skill and craft is something that rock 'n' roll shares with reality television. The same format that gave us the famous lip-syncher Ashlee Simpson has also given us the "American Idol" bunch, singers who are if anything too concerned with vocal competence. The world of reality television is equally full of shows that celebrate the unskilled (think of the layabouts on "The Real World" or "Big Brother") and shows that celebrate the highly skilled (the kitchen professionals on "Top Chef," or the motorcycle mechanics on "American Chopper").

You can see this tension in "SuperGroup," as members of the cast try to figure out their roles: are they geeky virtuosos or hard-partying daredevils? Surprisingly, perhaps, Mr. Bach opts for the former. "This is our craft," he intones, and he irks Mr. Seinfeld by staying home to work on a demo while some bandmates go out to relax. The program plays it straight, neither refuting nor validating the bandmates' view of themselves as brilliant musicians. Whether they're any good isn't the point: the point is that they think they're good. On a show like this, confidence is much more important than competence. In the end, the housemates play both reality roles at once: they are clueless experts.

"SuperGroup" is, in part, an exercise in nostalgia. The show celebrates and gently mocks a bygone era when rock stars were rock stars. And the band members themselves seem surprisingly cheerful about the trade-off: they've traded a reverent radio audience for an irreverent television audience. Could be worse.

[Katkick]

Thanks Bazgirl -- Interesting article.
Anyone know what happened to the 'interview' lady's article from episode #3? or is this the one??

[Katkick]

Hey Bazgirl.. hope you don't mind?, I borrowed your article for another board. -

I'm finding it hard to keep up with all the media and stuff being put out.

Glad to have someone like you and all the others on this site who share the info

Thanks

[bazgirl]

Your welcome. No I don't mind. Just take what you need.

[MaM]

www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2006/06/08/rockstar_wives_take_you_for_a_ride_this_

06/08/06
13:19:26, Categories: Music News, TV News
Rockstar Wives Take You For A Ride This Season On VH1's "Supergroup"
This week on VH1's "Supergroup" (airing Sunday, 6/11 @ 10 PM ET/PT) Evan Seinfeld’s wife (porn superstar Tera Patrick) arrives, as does Sebastian’s wife, Maria (aspiring porn superstar?). Will what happens in Vegas cause problems back home?

VH1’s "SuperGroup" is Ted Nugent, Scott Ian (Anthrax), Sebastian Bach (Skid Row), Evan Seinfeld (Biohazard) and Jason Bonham, are poised to re-conquer the rock world (and hopefully spread a little debauchery in the process) in the ultimate musical experiment. "SuperGroup" will bring together these five hard rocking icons and present them with the opportunity to create the heaviest "SuperGroup." Ultimately viewers will see whether or not the band will come together as hard rock’s saviors or simply implode.

[Bazerrk]

If I could ONLY look that HOT in my underwear! LOL!

[bazgirl]

This article shows that things are not always what they appear, especially with Reality shows and editing:

www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/living/14788340.htm



Posted on Sat, Jun. 10, 2006

Old time rock ’n’ roll
The reality of ‘Supergroup’ is the experience … and the editing

By Chelsea J. Carter
Associated Press


Who are you calling irrelevant? Sebastian Bach, right, mugs for the camera as Ted Nugent, left, and Scott Ian kick out the jams at the “Supergroup” house. “Supergroup” is a VH-1 reality show that unites five rock stars in an effort to revive rock ’n’ roll.

LAS VEGAS – Rocker-turned-actor-turned-reality TV star Sebastian Bach has to go to the bathroom.

“That’s reality,” he announces to the cameras.

Moments later, he’s yelling about a broken toilet. Every toilet, he says, is broken in this two-story, gaudy mansion that serves as the set for VH1’s reality show “Supergroup.” His frustration boils over into unreasonable anger, and he lets loose with a stream of profanities.

It’s hard to tell if it’s an act of an overindulged rocker or an act for the cameras.

But then again, after spending a few hours on the set with the cast and being followed by cameras, it was hard to figure out where show business ended and reality began for the five rockers picked to live in a house, form a band and make music.

As asap discovered, reality is apparently open to interpretation – and to editing.

The premise

Supergroup’s reality: “Five seasoned rock stars descend on Las Vegas to form a band and save rock and roll,” gushes VH1’s promotional materials. “The catch? None of them know who their band mates are ahead of time. Motor City Madman Ted Nugent, former Skid Row frontman Sebastian Bach and Anthrax’s Scott Ian team up with drummer (Led Zeppelin heir) Jason Bonham and Biohazard’s Evan Seinfeld to live together, form a band, write new music and perform a concert in just 12 days.”

Reality: Five rock stars move into a mansion with their own private cook (who looks like a model) and agree to form a band, write new music and – for most band members – party like crazy in Vegas. Oh yeah, and they can nationally promote their upcoming tours, albums, television appearances with their respective bands.

On the record

Supergroup’s reality: Bach acts over-the-top, indignant at some questions posed during an asap interview, and abruptly gets up and leaves.

Reality: asap sat down with Bach for nearly 30 minutes, asking about life in the house and his reason for participating. His answer, “Music.” He does go on an expletive filled tirade about efforts to be prepped for the interview. (“I never tried in my life to contrive what I was doing.”)

But when the conversation turns to the state of music and his and his housemates attempt to stay musically relevant, Bach was passionate and lists his latest accomplishments, including a track on a recent Rhino Records rock compilation that debuted on the Billboard charts. The interview was interrupted by a producer, who tried to end the conversation, prompting Bach to jump up with a “Goodbye.” Bach later returned to finish the interview, which ended cordially.

What Bach really said: “People say rock and rollers are coming back. We live in the United States of America. The biggest band in the touring genre in America is Motley Crue. That’s just the fact of the matter. I don’t know how people gauge things. Ozzfest is the biggest tour, and Motley Crue is even bigger than that. Motley Crue just outsold the Rolling Stones this month. How do you gauge things. I’ve got a top 20 album this month. Is that not relevant – having a top 20 album on Billboard? I’d say that’s pretty relevant.”

Pictures

Supergroup’s reality: Bach resisted at having his picture taken by an Associated Press photographer.

“You don’t want photos taken, then we won’t do photos,” said Valerie Michaels of City Publicity.

“No, I’m saying if I can go running first and then take pictures,” Bach said.

Reality: In fact, Bach willingly agreed to have his picture taken before he went running.

What you won’t see

Supergroup’s reality: asap’s interview was all about Bach’s over-the-top rock star life.

Reality: Ted Nugent dodged an asap question about whether he would be declaring his candidacy for public office; Evan Seinfeld wasn’t in the house the day of the interview; Ian and Bonham cracked jokes for asap at the expense of the cook.

Why?

Supergroup’s reality: Ask why the five grown, financially successful men agree to live in a house together and have their lives taped, and they all say – in some form – that it is for the experience. And, they stress, to make “great (expletive) music together.”

Reality: On the surface, it appears to be about music. But delve a little deeper with the rockers, each who have had enormous success independent of one another, and it’s about the experience all right: reality television experience, that is.

“Now I know how it works,” Ian told asap recently.

[MaM]

thanks bazgirl for putting that up.

[purple]

lilskidrow said:

If I could ONLY look that HOT in my underwear! LOL!

Who doesn't wish they would hehe ;D

[Metalbrat]

As I said before its 'edited' to make him a certain way, and as with 'interviews' he doesn't do that. And the point about taking photos for the interviews. Everyone is quick to judge without realizing it may be 'reality' but its 'edited' to a 'story' and 'characters' .
By the way, I'd get pretty pissed off with a huge house and no johns that work! lol
Thanks for the 'proof' article.

[Acekicken]

metalbrat said:

As I said before its 'edited' to make him a certain way, and as with 'interviews' he doesn't do that. And the point about taking photos for the interviews. Everyone is quick to judge without realizing it may be 'reality' but its 'edited' to a 'story' and 'characters' .
By the way, I'd get pretty pissed off with a huge house and no johns that work! lol
Thanks for the 'proof' article.

Yeah no bathrooms suck.

Something else I would like to add.
Bad photos when your being interviewed
tend to lead to bad writing. And if you have
a bad day the media loves to link bad photos to it.

You can tell they edit to be what they want us to see.
Even the previews are set up in a way to show more drama
then what happened. Take the clip of Scott saying is he gonna Kill
me. They put that up with Jason saying Sebastian don't do it just sing. When you see it in episode 3 Scott was complimenting Sebastian's genuine Excitement but from just the view it makes us wonder if they are fighting & not getting along.

Another is Baz saying you don't get it I'm not doing it.
The commercial makes look like he is not going to do
the show.Another is Ted saying he is going to go in there
& suggest being the leader & placing next to Baz saying this is my fucking band.

One who was just watching it might think they are fighting over leadership. But when we watch it Baz was sticking up for Jason
When Doc tried to bring in a beat-boxer & Baz was saying if
you bring in another singer I will hurt him

[Katkick]

.."Posted on Sat, Jun. 10, 2006

Old time rock ’n’ roll
The reality of ‘Supergroup’ is the experience … and the editing

By Chelsea J. Carter
Associated Press "" <read above>


Hey! Bazgirl,
I want to thank you as well, since I asked

You ROCK!

[bazgirl]

Your welcome!!

[rocknrollmom]

Heres one from the Detritus e-mail newsletter

*** ROCK HARD RIDE FREE ***
*
by Tim Wadzinski ([e-mail])

-So we're all watching VH1's "SuperGroup" with Sebastian Bach, Ted
Nugent, Scott Ian, Evan Seinfeld, and Jason Bonham right? In this
week's episode the guys temporarily changed their name from Fist to
Godwar ("Dude, that's Rawdog backwards!"), but not until after the
graphic artist they hired had already worked up some logo sketches for
Fist. Oops. Vocalist Bach wasn't sold on Godwar though, because it's
too depressing, and he pushed hard for Savage Animal ("Dude, that
rolls off my tongue! Rock is a savage animal! It rolls off my
tongue!") -- but everyone else including manager Doc Maghee thought it
was silly. At the 11th hour they all agreed on Damnocracy, which Bach
came up with during a heated band discussion. (I believe guitarist
Scott Ian first said something about "damn democracies," and then Bach
went with it.) The whole "What's our name?" thing was pretty funny to
watch, but at the same time you kind of understand the pressure to
come up with something good because of the limited amount of time --
12 days -- everyone has to assemble the group, write songs, rehearse,
promote a show, and actually play the show. It's interesting to see
all the different personalities. Ian and Bonham are like the quiet
voices of reason, Bach is the hyper 13-year-old, Seinfeld tries to
keep everything mellow and cordial, and Nugent has been gradually
getting more impatient and is now trying to take over. As usual you
don't know how much is true reality and how much is staged reality,
but I have to think it's at least 80/20 or so.

[rottigirl]

Now that's the best piece of journalism I've seen yet...... And the truth shall set you free!Thank you all for that.