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Post by MaM on Jun 3, 2005 7:31:05 GMT -5
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Post by Sebastian Bach on Jun 3, 2005 23:18:18 GMT -5
HEY this was just emailed to me from a fan. It was emailed to this person by Henning Pauly. Though you would all like to read it.
LADIES & GENTLEMEN .............. Henning Pauly !:Baz's board and the moderator... He is trying to screw us. That's it. He knows we are making less money on Amazon and since he has a referral account he gets paid by them for every sale. It is a very clear vicious attempt to screw us and at the same time make more money himself...the is NO other way to see this and anyone saying anything else is just lying. Let's put it this way: We have just gotten in the KILLER FS2 posters...those things are big and awesome and the pic is soooooo sweet. We'll start selling them soon and we also will have the first 250 of them autographed by myslef. Try to put that bit of news on Baz's board. He does not make any money on it. We hade them and there is nothing in the contract in any way, shape or form about royalties on merchandising. Sebastian signed the contract, he KNEW what he was getting into. So...post that on the board. The only link you can possibly give them because it's the only place where you can get them is the PRR website. See what happens... OK...I'll eat and them back in the studio with Matt. Oh yeah...here's an idea Matt and I had: If Baz made this CD soooo good with his writing skill and all the stuff he contributed then how about a little contest? Two days in the studio...he can have his whole band present to write and produce and record ONE song. Matt and I will also go in the studio together...for two days. Nothing can be written beforehand, everything has to be conceived right there in these two days. Who will come out of the studio with a song that gets close to the music on "Absence of Empathy"? Whose lyrics will have the metaphors and depth and wordplay that Matt can write? IF Baz really did on the CD what he said he did and if he really deserved the co-writes, then he should be able to do something comparable with the help of a whole band. Reply from Sebastian Bach: Why don't we do that ? Good idea ! Let's compare & see, shoppers .... "Slave To The Grind / Unweaving The Rainbow" ....."Skid Row / Chain.exe" ...... who has better songs ? Gee I wonder. Dumbass.How about it? Baz and band writing contest against Matt and Myself? WHO would come up with the song that's closer to AoE? WHO would come up with the cooler song? WHO woudl come up with a song AT ALL? Is he up for it? I am. Matt is. Henning _________________ Answer from Sebastian Bach:
HI Henning!
#1. The reason I link to Amazon.com is for one reason & one reason only: I TRUST Amazon. I do NOT TRUST you. Because YOU are a LIAR and you know it. You know in your heart I had final approval on the final mix in the contract & you have to go to bed every night knowing that you are a LIAR & are in BREACH OF CONTRACT by putting the CD out without my approval. Oh yeah, the staple in the face? Nice touch, asshole.  Amazon cannot FUCK me like you do every chance you get. Except for when I am in the room, standing next to you! Funny how that works, how tough you pretend to be when you are 2000 miles away from me. 
About the posters? This might come as a shock to you , but I really don't see an overwhelming demand for "Henning Pauly" autographs, Big Shot. Plus after people read what a complete dick you are in this post I somehow don't forsee you "endearing" yourself to the rock world at large. I ask you, Rockers of the world, would you buy a Sebastian Bach poster from this guy ?
#2. I will meet you & Matt anytime, anywhere. Would LOVE to see you again in person. Come on out from behind the computer. Sure, I will be glad to bring my band. First, we can see who rocks the hardest, my band or "you & Matt." Name the place & time , dickhead. If you can tear yourself away from your video games & your computer for more than 5 seconds.
After we see who "comes up with a cooler song" we can do other things too, that I get to pick. You up for that, chickenshit? We WILL meet again, in person, someday, whether you like it or not. I look forward to that day. Do you?
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Post by wildincinci on Jun 3, 2005 23:35:11 GMT -5
HOOOOLLLLLYYYYY SHIIIIIIIIITTTTTT  |
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Post by wildincinci on Jun 3, 2005 23:52:03 GMT -5
Again I say, HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by cincy777 on Jun 4, 2005 1:28:33 GMT -5
WOW!
Why didn't you say anything up to now? It's been coming at you from all over!!!
But, I 've been a fan of yours for 15/16 yrs. and I SHOULD'VE known better ;D
The "email" was actually a post on Henning's site, there's a whole thread about it, along with about a hundred more.
JOSH, if you edit me one more time...I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE!!! kind of ;D
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Post by MaM on Jun 4, 2005 7:09:20 GMT -5
baz i think you need this smiley for that post  this is the one i need right now...  wow!! michele |
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Post by trizza on Jun 4, 2005 12:05:42 GMT -5
KICK HIS FUCKIN' ASS BAZ - but only after he takes off his glasses.
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Post by Bazerrk on Jun 4, 2005 13:13:27 GMT -5
Go Baz...I am sure if you want us too you can have the WHOLE Bach Army right behind ready to kick some....
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Post by slayerules on Jun 4, 2005 13:31:20 GMT -5
Henning said in his reply:
"WHO SAID I have to be a musician forever or even a ROCKER? See folks, for Sebastian, this is the only thing that counts, everything else in life comes second."
But surely, that's what matters in the music world? If you aren't dedicated and involved 100% and absolutely crazy about the music then you aren't going to get anywhere.
Phil
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Post by Bazerrk on Jun 4, 2005 13:51:14 GMT -5
Well, if Henning would get over his high horse and let things live....geez.....Dude is getting riDICKulous.....err ridiculous...LOL!
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Post by She-Wolf on Jun 4, 2005 22:16:03 GMT -5
Please don't. Who will really support your decision if something does happen? Go kick a few soccer balls, belt out the most metal you can, just get past this. I agree...to be totally honest I am very disapointed in BOTH sides on this cause the music is so great I wish I had NEVER heard anything about this crap...I send an email to Henning about my little review on my Bach Blog to be nice and get back about links being "nuked" here when he says I'd like the poster  ...Baz says stuff here while I understand being angry in the end just makes him look bad to the public (I'm sorry but that's how I feel) and pisses the prog-rock guys off more to talk ...I was just happy this dude asked Baz to work with him so we could hear some new music  and happy and PROUD Baz did it as well because the music is AWESOME so this crap is REALLY breaking my heart from BOTH sides... and I just wish it would just STOP on BOTH sides. sorry for the rant, but I'm really tired of thinking about it cause I don't know what to think about it anymore howl at ya later Debra |
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Post by tripzilla on Jun 4, 2005 22:33:09 GMT -5
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Post by rocknrollmom on Jun 4, 2005 23:57:19 GMT -5
Hey everyone can we let the bullshit die? If I want to read that other board I will,(not likely) but I know who I want to support, and his name isn't henning. Baz, you know I love ya, but you are only adding gasoline to the fire by posting replies. Please stop feeding the idiot. The album kicks some serious ass, and right now that's the only ass I want to see kicked. |
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Post by She-Wolf on Jun 5, 2005 0:14:48 GMT -5
Hey everyone can we let the bullshit die? If I want to read that other board I will,(not likely) but I know who I want to support, and his name isn't henning. Baz, you know I love ya, but you are only adding gasoline to the fire by posting replies. Please stop feeding the idiot. The album kicks some serious ass, and right now that's the only ass I want to see kicked. right...I love Baz too, but if it seems like I get angry or upset with him I am, but that's the reason ya know I will admit I am very disapointed in him over this as well, really since he first posted on his site about it...but I had wanted NEW music from him so much and yes I have been disappointed by him waiting so long for the solo cd i don't know if anyone else feels that way I'm sorry about that, but that's how I feel and I feel I need to say that here cause I need to know if it's ok to feel that way... I thought this whole project was so cool I was just angry and sad about any negativity from anyone I do admire everybody involved with making the cd, if it was'nt for them we would'nt have ANYTHING. I wish I was'nt so upset by this but I don't know what to think about anybody anymore sorry about all this crying, but I just want to know if it's ok if I'm the only one who feels this way ... deb |
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Post by slayerules on Jun 5, 2005 6:05:52 GMT -5
I know what you mean Deb When it first all kicked off, I couldn't even listen to the album - it just felt wrong, and this does nothing but exacerbate it. I know we all support Baz here, but things need to be dropped before they go too far. I'm just upset that now Henning won't work on Baz's solo CD, and that's what upsets me most, because he could have worked wonders for it.....  Phil |
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Post by federica on Jun 5, 2005 8:02:28 GMT -5
Hanning is so ridiculous!!!
fede
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Post by jojo711 on Jun 5, 2005 8:09:26 GMT -5
like peggy i too wish this crap would die. i thought henning was cool at first but ya know he has went on about this since day one and the shit is really starting to get old now. i've said all along it's almost as if they have to keep trying harder and harder to get ppl on 'their' side. it's a shame too b/c it is a killer cd that ALL parties should be proud of but after all this i don't see how.  jojo |
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Post by She-Wolf on Jun 5, 2005 8:30:30 GMT -5
I know what you mean Deb When it first all kicked off, I couldn't even listen to the album - it just felt wrong, and this does nothing but exacerbate it. I know we all support Baz here, but things need to be dropped before they go too far. I'm just upset that now Henning won't work on Baz's solo CD, and that's what upsets me most, because he could have worked wonders for it..... Phil Thank you Phil, I'm glad somebody feels the same Debra |
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Post by tripzilla on Jun 5, 2005 14:29:17 GMT -5
what was the song? Oh yeah, Live and Let Die!
Jessica
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Post by PolkaKing on Jun 6, 2005 6:10:06 GMT -5
Lot of big egoes going on in the music-biz I guess.... I'm gonna try to forget about this little argument you guys are having. I think it's an awesome album, with vocals from Bach better than I have heard him in years! So I'm gonna shut off my mac now, get a cold beer, lean back and let the music do all the talking....  |
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Post by tripzilla on Jun 6, 2005 12:49:13 GMT -5
[glow=blue ,2,300]That is not true, we all care... the members here are like family, and damnit, I care. (((Hugs to you))) Jessica [/glow] |
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Post by Bazerrk on Jun 6, 2005 13:47:57 GMT -5
HEY I fucking care! I must be a nobody.... (((hugs to Shewolf))) |
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Post by She-Wolf on Jun 6, 2005 17:01:02 GMT -5
Thanks guys. I deleted my posts...I don't need to be doing this shit to myself again....howl at ya later
Deb
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Post by bazmusic on Jun 6, 2005 17:54:08 GMT -5
Let the dumbass talk Baz, he is an idiot , and as i said in a recent post the album is YOU. Ans if you need a hand to "meet" this asshole i'm gonna take a plane from ARGENTINA my country, and beat the shit out of him!
Since 1989 i'm in your hands.
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Post by MatthewPhillips on Jun 6, 2005 18:21:42 GMT -5
Ans if you need a hand to "meet" this asshole i'm gonna take a plane from ARGENTINA my country, and beat the shit out of him! Have you listened to Frameshift 2? I understand that you are in Argentina, but you do seem to speak very decent English. Maybe you're not getting the concept of the album: Violence = Bad? |
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Post by wildincinci on Jun 6, 2005 20:59:30 GMT -5
well. it happened. exactly what I didn't want to happen. We are all now discussing and bitching about the same shit that's going on over on Henning's board. I wanted to keep the arguing and opinions over there. Oh well. If you can't beat em, join em. ha ha
Josh
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Post by Acekicken on Jun 6, 2005 22:06:32 GMT -5
well. it happened. exactly what I didn't want to happen. We are all now discussing and bitching about the same shit that's going on over on Henning's board. I wanted to keep the arguing and opinions over there. Oh well. If you can't beat em, join em. ha ha Josh For as many times as they say they want it to stop they keep coming back to the board to post. This Rave must be selling the CD well. 3/4 of the posts have nothing to do with the credits. Now there gonna Sell posters of Bach to make more money & he will not see a Cent for them. Thats Bullshit. If this was just about Credits the Lawyers would Handel it. I think they are taking there moment to stand in the Sun. We all know the CD is great. It took everyone to make it Great! Now they drop a challenge & have not responded to Sebastian Excepting it. Henning said we will see who song is more like an AoE. Well Musically they may Write a kick ass song So will Bach & co. But the one Sebastian Sings is gonna Sound more Like AoE You don't have to be a Rocket Scientist to know Sebastian singing a songs is gonna sound closer to AoE. |
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Post by Twilight on Jun 6, 2005 22:43:36 GMT -5
Ok. I have to say something about this. I have been a fan of Baz since I first heard his voice in 1989. I think the FS2 CD is an awesome piece of work. Would it be as great without him? No, it wouldn't. Now, obviously the mojority of people on this board are die hard Baz fans, but we're not stupid. We know he's a human being, albeit a very talented one. That said, a great many talented people throughout history have been known to be "difficult". Usually the people labeling them aren't as talented. I think when people like Baz have an amazing gift to give the world, they want it to be used properly and they tend to be perfectionists about their gift. I, for one appreciate that he wants everything he does for his fans to be done to his standards. I don't consider this to be "difficult". I also notice on that other board they are now allowing people to say slanderous things about him. Everyday, they try to put him down more, but I know he'll rise above it all.
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Post by jojo711 on Jun 7, 2005 1:22:26 GMT -5
I also notice on that other board they are now allowing people to say slanderous things about him. Everyday, they try to put him down more, but I know he'll rise above it all. yep they sure are and i posted specifically for that reason but they came back saying nothing they were saying is slanderous. they see nothing wrong with some very cruel things being said and are basically putting all the blame on baz. sure baz will rise above all the bullshit but the point is, is that it's not just about credits over there nomore, they've moved onto a personal level which has nothing to do with the credit thing AT ALL!!! jojo |
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Post by Jennielise on Jun 7, 2005 3:18:37 GMT -5
Damn, why does this go on and on.
I don't want to know about this war it ruins my view on things and the enjoyment of listening to the music.
YUCK.
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Amazon cannot FUCK me like you do every chance you get. Except for when I am in the room, standing next to you! Funny how that works, how tough you pretend to be when you are 2000 miles away from me. 
and happy and PROUD Baz did it as well because the music is AWESOME 
