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Post by slayerules on Jun 7, 2005 8:56:39 GMT -5
Damn, why does this go on and on. I don't want to know about this war it ruins my view on things and the enjoyment of listening to the music. YUCK. Well said, I agree Phil |
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Post by bazmusic on Jun 7, 2005 12:51:39 GMT -5
MatthewPhillips: I do live in ARGENTINA i'm the number 1 one fan here of Sebastian Bach and Skid Row (whit BAZ) .I have the album, i read the lyrics and i respect what you're saying......but did you read the board of this idiot on glasses??? But dude enough is enough!! The way i see the things here is: Sebastian want some respect THATZ ALL! and this guy wants all the credit for the album.....and its no fare.....haw many copies sold Frameshift2 cos Sebastian is singing....nice question Pauly ah!
Thatz all
PS:sorry my english sucks....
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Post by ceo30 on Jun 7, 2005 21:18:17 GMT -5
Regardless of what is in the contract, the name itself is trademarked, therefore, anyone selling the merchandising or representing an individual or company alike, must pay royalties and compensation for doing so. A Legally binding contract should have no loopholes whatsoever all compensation, fee structures should also be attached. Its to safe guard an individual or organization. But they'res also a safety catch. Even if you have not written this into your contract, you are protected by Intellectual Property Law. This is not to say in the least that you must have a written contract to be fully protected, a verbal agreement would also be adequate. In order to sell goods and merchandising, they're would be an agreement between both parties. You cannot sell items without the permission from an artist or company to do so. Im a lawyer and I write contracts all the time. Verbal is just as important as written.
I read the post which I found very interesting. Whoever Baz has selling his merchandising makes me believe they are amateur. The reason I say this is, a professional merchandiser, resale or seller would know that they'res royalties, fees and commissions attached on each sale. Its standard Business Practice when you are selling items, merchandising or anything to do with a monetary value. I honestly cannot believe they dont know this already. They're are laws to protect Individuals, Companies and Organizations also if you do not have certain things written into your Contract.
I am somewhat perplexed about this. Maybe some people should stick to what they are competent at.
They wont last very long in the game with the big boys with and an attitude like that. The Big Boys will crush him and his friend Matt in a matter of minutes, if not less than that!! No one will want to work with him if he is behaving like that now!! Kind of a warning sign dont you think?? You dont get something for nothing!!
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Post by rocknrollmom on Jun 7, 2005 23:33:29 GMT -5
Damn, why does this go on and on. I don't want to know about this war it ruins my view on things and the enjoyment of listening to the music. YUCK. Out of the mouths of babes  |
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Post by Metalbrat on Jun 8, 2005 0:45:44 GMT -5
Go Baz...I am sure if you want us too you can have the WHOLE Bach Army right behind ready to kick some.... Ok who wants to go over and kick some ass?! who's with me huh, who's with me?  |
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Post by Metalbrat on Jun 8, 2005 0:51:56 GMT -5
HOOOOLLLLLYYYYY SHIIIIIIIIITTTTTT UhOh, taking cover after the Hyde has been released!  I'm ready. lol  Of course I am just kidding, (maybe? lol) anyways, here we go again. Instead of 'business' its gotten personal. And for the record, the frameshift2 wouldn't have 'kicked ass' without a singer like Baz. The end. Next topic.  |
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Post by bazmusic on Jun 8, 2005 10:11:05 GMT -5
I have my plane ticket ready.....
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Post by mixohoytian on Jun 8, 2005 13:48:37 GMT -5
Sebastian, great work. You should be proud. You are my favorite singer of all time. I am musician/composer. I love everything from Dream Theater to jazz to classical to beach boys, but when it comes to singing, you are the coolest. I'm so glad you sang on the Frameshift cd. My dream has been to have someone as good as you sing on my stuff. I basically have to hire guys and tell them to try and get as emotional as you, but it's not the same. I write a lot of rock stuff and I would give you writing credits in a heartbeat, just because your voice is that important. I won't get into this debate, but I want to offer my services as a guitarist and writer. I would love to write music for your voice in any style. You should work w/ some arrangers etc.....your voice is more than just rock. You were great in Jesus Christ Super star. Later.
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Post by Acekicken on Jun 8, 2005 22:45:01 GMT -5
Sebastian, great work. You should be proud. You are my favorite singer of all time. I am musician/composer. I love everything from Dream Theater to jazz to classical to beach boys, but when it comes to singing, you are the coolest. I'm so glad you sang on the Frameshift cd. My dream has been to have someone as good as you sing on my stuff. I basically have to hire guys and tell them to try and get as emotional as you, but it's not the same. I write a lot of rock stuff and I would give you writing credits in a heartbeat, just because your voice is that important. I won't get into this debate, but I want to offer my services as a guitarist and writer. I would love to write music for your voice in any style. You should work w/ some arrangers etc.....your voice is more than just rock. You were great in Jesus Christ Super star. Later. Thanks For sheading light On a Dark Subject. Perhaps You should make a Disk of your Stuff &Send it Bach's Way. |
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Post by Metalbrat on Jun 12, 2005 23:36:48 GMT -5
Ya know the more it goes on the dumber it sounds and the more I look at it and go, ya know who fucking wants to read all this shit?  |
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Post by jojo711 on Jun 13, 2005 0:24:14 GMT -5
i know it does go on and on by them, personally i'm really starting to wonder if they keep it going for all of the attention their getting not to mention the sales?
btw....I LOVE THAT SMILEY!!! ;D
jojo
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Post by mixohoytian on Jun 13, 2005 13:24:26 GMT -5
They stopped the arguing on the other site.
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Post by Acekicken on Jun 13, 2005 14:00:51 GMT -5
They stopped the arguing on the other site. :oA Million Posts Later |
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Post by Acekicken on Jun 13, 2005 14:01:24 GMT -5
They stopped the arguing on the other site. :oA Million Posts Later |
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Post by mixohoytian on Jun 13, 2005 15:47:34 GMT -5
Ninethly is one louder than eightly really (says Nigel)
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Post by Metalbrat on Jun 13, 2005 17:32:53 GMT -5
How about a nice 'gag order'?
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Post by Metalbrat on Jun 13, 2005 17:34:20 GMT -5
i know it does go on and on by them, personally i'm really starting to wonder if they keep it going for all of the attention their getting not to mention the sales? btw....I LOVE THAT SMILEY!!! ;D jojo Thank you, I liked it. Got it at 'cracks smileys' |
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Post by Bazerrk on Jun 13, 2005 17:37:47 GMT -5
How about a nice 'gag order'? hmmm...how bout some duct tape...got any handy? |
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Post by outfield20 on Jun 16, 2005 15:56:02 GMT -5
All I know is I am a fan of Sebastian Bach for the reason that he is a 100% rocker. So many bands/singers go on stage and play....Sebastian goes on stage and lives....he is having as much fun on stage as we have fun watching and listening. I have seen him many times and that man rocks.... this Henning guy asked Sebastian to sing because nobody else can go in all those directions like him. Let the ass say what he wants .... Sebastian is a professional and a great human.....and a great businessman. Thanks Sebastian Rock On Hope to see you on tour soon
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Post by znogstAH on Jun 19, 2005 15:42:40 GMT -5
Gawd, so many fu**in' RUDE people out there! "Blah, I can't succeed in my music carrer so I'll just go pick on someone else who's one of the greatest rockers ever. YEAH that sounds like an idea!" Bloody eedjit. I guess he just wanted to prove how stupid one can be. Baz would (will?) kick his ass, no problem. And yeah - the army is behind him!  |
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Post by ceo30 on Jun 19, 2005 16:12:51 GMT -5
We'll, wasnt that interesting.
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Post by MatthewPhillips on Jun 19, 2005 16:36:31 GMT -5
I am completely dumfounded by the last 2 pages in this thread. It's one thing to be a fan of someone's music. But to be a completely blind fanboy/girl and actually encourage someone to fight someone else over a dispute in writing credits on a CD is completely insane.Again, did I just timewarp into Stupidville, or am I still in the 'Frameshift 2 : An Absence of Empathy' thread? If you're posting on this messageboard you must be able to read, so tell me what does it say on the cover of this album: www.eyekicks.com/img/references/cover/fram1.gifLittle white letters, right underneath the eyeball. I am not too happy with this "Go get him Bas!" shit, but I would be equally unhappy if it was the other way around and someone was threatening Bas with violence. Just please get over yourselves and grow up a little. |
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Post by MatthewPhillips on Jun 19, 2005 16:41:55 GMT -5
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Post by Metalbrat on Jun 20, 2005 20:31:38 GMT -5
'Go get 'em Baz' is more of a 'attaboy' thing. Its just a 'figure of speech' and is pretty much to everyone, fight for what u believe in and that should be the only message. As far as the rest of the 'arguing' Forgetaboutit. lol
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Post by Acekicken on Jun 21, 2005 17:55:37 GMT -5
I am completely dumfounded by the last 2 pages in this thread. It's one thing to be a fan of someone's music. But to be a completely blind fanboy/girl and actually encourage someone to fight someone else over a dispute in writing credits on a CD is completely insane.Again, did I just timewarp into Stupidville, or am I still in the 'Frameshift 2 : An Absence of Empathy' thread? If you're posting on this messageboard you must be able to read, so tell me what does it say on the cover of this album: www.eyekicks.com/img/references/cover/fram1.gifLittle white letters, right underneath the eyeball. I am not too happy with this "Go get him Bas!" shit, but I would be equally unhappy if it was the other way around and someone was threatening Bas with violence. Just please get over yourselves and grow up a little. As a Professional Fighter I'm kind of against the little slogan printed on that cover. |
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Post by bob on Jun 21, 2005 22:18:00 GMT -5
'Go get 'em Baz' is more of a 'attaboy' thing. Its just a 'figure of speech' and is pretty much to everyone, fight for what u believe in and that should be the only message. As far as the rest of the 'arguing' Forgetaboutit. lol could be just a figure of speech about kicking someone's ass by meaning SHUT THE FUCK UP...your over the line dude. |
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Post by Acekicken on Jun 22, 2005 10:29:12 GMT -5
They stopped the arguing on the other site. :-XNo they Just Locked everyone out.  |
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Post by mixohoytian on Jun 22, 2005 15:56:32 GMT -5
yawn
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Post by MatthewPhillips on Jun 22, 2005 17:07:48 GMT -5
Just one thread had been locked, the thread with all of the senseless arguing.
Fyi, no one is getting censored on Henning's board. For anything really. Someone called Henning a "four-eyed Nazi" and I am sorry but if that was my board, that mofo would have been permabanned to the moon, or at least given a week ban. But the post still remains.
There is a brand new "Absence..." thread as of June 8th... it's been up almost 2 weeks before you posted this.
As with what wildincinci is (hopefully) trying to do w/ this board, they are trying to cultivate a forum of interesting discussion about the album, not slander (that has nothing to do with the fans).
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Post by MatthewPhillips on Jun 22, 2005 17:15:30 GMT -5
Ace, watch this video : poststuff4.entensity.net/062005/fight.wmvHopefully that link is still live. You have to right-click and "Save Target As..." and save it to your computer. It won't play if you just click on the link. Also you have to take that line "Violence is the last resort of the incompetent" and take it in context. They are speaking about violence which is unjust. I can't imagine that you "fight" for a living, but hey if that's your gig then so be it. But if that's the case it's probably like wrestling or Ultimate Fighter or something right? Those guys are put in pre-determined matches and paid to kick the crap out of eachother...and then usually shake hands afterwards "Good job, good fight". A sport. Although honestly I don't think any kind of violence is good, but a couple of guys kicking the crap out of eachother and getting paid to do it aren't hurting me or anyone else. As long as you're not acting like the African-American in the video above -- who btw got his ass kicked right? He started the fight, and he got dropped after attacking the other guy. |
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