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Post by Papillon78 on Sept 1, 2009 13:03:00 GMT -5
How can u say something like that??  To me skid row was the amalgamation of Rob, Sebastian, Rachel, Snake and Scotti's talents..... In all of the great skid row songs(Quicksand Jesus, Monkey Business etc.), the guitars were as much a part of the song as Baz's vocals.......... We loved Skid row bcoz Baz's vocals blended in perfectly with Snake's guitar work...... and Rachel's Bass combined with Rob's drumming to lay the foundation on which all those great songs were composed....... when i listen to a band, i look for a complete listening experience where all the members get a chance to shine and showcase their talents... and not just one person..... If one person hogs all the attention and limelight then that band is bound to split up or make poor music.... that's why i LOVED Angel down... coz baz assembled a killer team of musicians, all of whom displayed their skills on their respective instruments...... M4L, I agree with what you are saying, but dude, you are a Musician....you are clearly into all the technicalities and musicianship that go along with a Musician who watches / listens to a Band....thats all cool and I know where you are coming from, however....and this is no dig at anyone here who isnt a Muso, so I hope people dont take this the wrong way.....BUT, most people who are not Musicians or who are not into all the scales and the technical abilities of each member of the band, really dont care about all that stuff!!! They see the good looking singer, they hear his / her voice, and they relate to THAT as well as the melody and the hook of the song. They dont relate to the fact that the Bass player is playing some amazing twiddle diddle run with his brand new pedal, or that the drummer just played a 16th and threw in a flam...man thats all technical rubbish that the average Joe who cant play an instrument could not care less about... all they wanna do is ROCK. Sebastian Bach, like it or not, was by far the MAIN focus of Skid Row, by the Media, the Photographers and the Fans. Remember when Baz was on the Cover of Rolling Stone? Where was the Band?? They were not there, because to the Media, Sebastian Bach WAS SKID ROW.....sure the story inside may have involved some pics of the band, but it was all Baz on the cover dude....thats the way the band was portrayed to the public by the Media (and I dare say - Management), so naturally the general public focus was ALWAYS on Baz.....the image he portrayed in Skid Row was one of a larger than life character....the guy is a foot taller than any other member, he was the best looking, he had (and still has) the booming voice.....I can tell you, when my wife sees an old Skid Row film clip shes not focasing in, say, Rachael or Rob....she sees them as background guys and Sebastian as the main focus of the filmclip....I reckon most people would be looking at it in a similar way. I dont blame Baz at all for wanting people to hear his new Music....we've kinda had this discussion before in another thread....Hes not the Sebastian Bach of 1991. Hes the Sebastian Bach of 2009. I dont see Motley Crue dressing the same way and writing the same songs they did in 1988 man, they are trying (and many would say failing hehehe) to remain relevant - to be a 2009 Band....whats wrong with that? The only other thing I will say to you is that im sure that in 15 Years time you will not still be playing one of the songs you wrote say, last year, UNLESS there are people out there demanding that you play it....im sure that in 15 Years time YOU as a musician will have moved on man, and you will look back at your songs from that time and think "wow, what I write now is soooooooooo much better than what i was doing in 2008"....you gotta move forward man, its called "Life's Progression"... It doesn't "hurt" me at all. I'm not a musician and I know nothing about those technical things and don't even care ;D. One thing came to my mind: in 1993 ehem some years ago  I was watching Metallica here in Helsinki with my friends. We hadn't slept at all night before and were pretty tired. Kirk played his looong solos and my friend slept couple minutes... I love Metallica but I think those extra solos are so booriing. Yawn. Wake me up when it's over... My wild guess is that many people here who know Skid Row know that the singer was Sebastian Bach but they really don't know the other "background" dudes at all. |
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Post by fanglette on Sept 1, 2009 15:12:30 GMT -5
why is it that always the 80s rock bands have to constantly face scrutiny for their clothing or sound?? I have to say I think that is a very good question. There seems to be a real antipathy towards 80s hard rock bands. Yes, they were often brash and showy, with teased out hair, vogue-cover makeup and crazy spandex, but a lot of people liked and still like the music they made. That said, SR were much less of a 'glam' band than many of the bands out there - especially when 'Slave...' came out.. Nobody could possibly describe that album as 'hair metal', and I don't see what's wrong with 'hard rock' either. People should just judge Sebastian now by what he is currently releasing - acknowledge the past but live in the present! Fx |
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Post by baranthalas on Sept 1, 2009 19:10:28 GMT -5
I was watching Metallica here in Helsinki with my friends. We hadn't slept at all night before and were pretty tired. Kirk played his looong solos and my friend slept couple minutes... I love Metallica but I think those extra solos are so booriing. Yawn. Wake me up when it's over... thats why he is not doing any solo for 15 years i think ;D back then lars,jason and kirk were playing long solos and james was even playing drum solo with lars. i would love to travel in time to watch those 3-4 hours long concerts  |
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Post by accept40 on Sept 2, 2009 1:55:36 GMT -5
How can u say something like that?? To me skid row was the amalgamation of Rob, Sebastian, Rachel, Snake and Scotti's talents..... In all of the great skid row songs(Quicksand Jesus, Monkey Business etc.), the guitars were as much a part of the song as Baz's vocals.......... We loved Skid row bcoz Baz's vocals blended in perfectly with Snake's guitar work...... and Rachel's Bass combined with Rob's drumming to lay the foundation on which all those great songs were composed....... when i listen to a band, i look for a complete listening experience where all the members get a chance to shine and showcase their talents... and not just one person..... If one person hogs all the attention and limelight then that band is bound to split up or make poor music.... that's why i LOVED Angel down... coz baz assembled a killer team of musicians, all of whom displayed their skills on their respective instruments...... M4L, I agree with what you are saying, but dude, you are a Musician....you are clearly into all the technicalities and musicianship that go along with a Musician who watches / listens to a Band....thats all cool and I know where you are coming from, however....and this is no dig at anyone here who isnt a Muso, so I hope people dont take this the wrong way.....BUT, most people who are not Musicians or who are not into all the scales and the technical abilities of each member of the band, really dont care about all that stuff!!! They see the good looking singer, they hear his / her voice, and they relate to THAT as well as the melody and the hook of the song. They dont relate to the fact that the Bass player is playing some amazing twiddle diddle run with his brand new pedal, or that the drummer just played a 16th and threw in a flam...man thats all technical rubbish that the average Joe who cant play an instrument could not care less about... all they wanna do is ROCK. Sebastian Bach, like it or not, was by far the MAIN focus of Skid Row, by the Media, the Photographers and the Fans. Remember when Baz was on the Cover of Rolling Stone? Where was the Band?? They were not there, because to the Media, Sebastian Bach WAS SKID ROW.....sure the story inside may have involved some pics of the band, but it was all Baz on the cover dude....thats the way the band was portrayed to the public by the Media (and I dare say - Management), so naturally the general public focus was ALWAYS on Baz.....the image he portrayed in Skid Row was one of a larger than life character....the guy is a foot taller than any other member, he was the best looking, he had (and still has) the booming voice.....I can tell you, when my wife sees an old Skid Row film clip shes not focasing in, say, Rachael or Rob....she sees them as background guys and Sebastian as the main focus of the filmclip....I reckon most people would be looking at it in a similar way. I dont blame Baz at all for wanting people to hear his new Music....we've kinda had this discussion before in another thread....Hes not the Sebastian Bach of 1991. Hes the Sebastian Bach of 2009. I dont see Motley Crue dressing the same way and writing the same songs they did in 1988 man, they are trying (and many would say failing hehehe) to remain relevant - to be a 2009 Band....whats wrong with that? The only other thing I will say to you is that im sure that in 15 Years time you will not still be playing one of the songs you wrote say, last year, UNLESS there are people out there demanding that you play it....im sure that in 15 Years time YOU as a musician will have moved on man, and you will look back at your songs from that time and think "wow, what I write now is soooooooooo much better than what i was doing in 2008"....you gotta move forward man, its called "Life's Progression"... I'm too tired to post big post of words but I was into Skid Row for the guitars. Sebastian was cool back then when I met him. I appreciated it. |
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To me skid row was the amalgamation of Rob, Sebastian, Rachel, Snake and Scotti's talents..... In all of the great skid row songs(Quicksand Jesus, Monkey Business etc.), the guitars were as much a part of the song as Baz's vocals.......... We loved Skid row bcoz Baz's vocals blended in perfectly with Snake's guitar work...... and Rachel's Bass combined with Rob's drumming to lay the foundation on which all those great songs were composed....... 
I was watching Metallica here in Helsinki with my friends. We hadn't slept at all night before and were pretty tired. Kirk played his looong solos and my friend slept couple minutes... I love Metallica but I think those extra solos are so booriing. Yawn. Wake me up when it's over...
