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Post by savageanimal on Feb 16, 2007 15:11:18 GMT -5
What does this song mean? Is it something in time or something? That your sprit always will be on earth, somewhere between heaven and hell? I don't know!
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Post by Metalbrat on Feb 16, 2007 20:43:25 GMT -5
What does this song mean? Is it something in time or something? That your sprit always will be on earth, somewhere between heaven and hell? I don't know! Here's an old interview that may shed a little light on the subject. I think I remember something that it was written during the Gulf war and how you still look for God when your in 'quicksand' like fighting the war. www.sleazeroxx.com/vault/1991ski.shtmlI also found an old youtube video with Baz and Rachel (and watching it, them joking, but it was really true). From Buenos aires www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrhPMbr-_7M |
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Post by YaMUTHA on Feb 16, 2007 23:16:55 GMT -5
hey jo, i must say...that was a very cool article...good read...thx!!
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Post by Metalbrat on Feb 16, 2007 23:47:55 GMT -5
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Post by Papillon78 on Feb 17, 2007 4:48:42 GMT -5
Thanks for the interview.
How about this (a piece of interview):
"The day of our interview, Bas had just learned that Skid Row's lead track, "Monkey Business," had been selected as the theme song for the new Arnold Schwarzenegger film, Terminator II.
"I just can't believe it!" he bellows from the heart. "It's so weird, because when you're so close to everything, the way I am at this point, all I'm thinking about is how each mix sounds as I hear it, how this or that note sounds, what the stage is going to look like, and where the tour will be playing. Then I get word that one of our tunes is going to be in a film like that.... Man, it's like f?!?!?!ck! My music in a film!"
Is Monkey Business on the Terminator soundtrack? Did it really happen? I remember that something happened, don't know what, but it didn't end up there. Just correct if I'm wrong here.
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Post by savageanimal on Feb 17, 2007 5:48:43 GMT -5
Piece from the interview:
And did they eat speed to whip the notes of songs like "Livin' on a Chain Gang," "Riot Act," "Get the F?!k Out" and "Monkey Business" into the awesome weapons of mass destruction they've become? Bas winces. "Naw, no...It just sounds like we did. Listen, we even have a ballad about heroin abuse on this album, called 'Wasted Time.' In fact, we have three ballads on this album. We also have 'In a Darkened Room' and a song about trying not to lose faith in God with all the shit that goes on in the world. That's a tough thing to do. It's called 'Quicksand Jesus.'"
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Post by Acekicken on Feb 17, 2007 7:37:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the interview. How about this (a piece of interview): "The day of our interview, Bas had just learned that Skid Row's lead track, "Monkey Business," had been selected as the theme song for the new Arnold Schwarzenegger film, Terminator II. "I just can't believe it!" he bellows from the heart. "It's so weird, because when you're so close to everything, the way I am at this point, all I'm thinking about is how each mix sounds as I hear it, how this or that note sounds, what the stage is going to look like, and where the tour will be playing. Then I get word that one of our tunes is going to be in a film like that.... Man, it's like f?!?!?!ck! My music in a film!" Is Monkey Business on the Terminator soundtrack? Did it really happen? I remember that something happened, don't know what, but it didn't end up there. Just correct if I'm wrong here. No for some reason it was not included? |
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Post by Metalbrat on Feb 17, 2007 16:45:05 GMT -5
Terminator 2 was GNR I think, maybe 3 was Monkey Business, I don't remember now. Have to check it out.
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Post by Acekicken on Feb 17, 2007 20:19:14 GMT -5
Terminator 2 was GNR I think, maybe 3 was Monkey Business, I don't remember now. Have to check it out. T 2 was supose to have MB but for some reason it got bumped? |
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Post by Metalbrat on Feb 19, 2007 1:45:37 GMT -5
ah. Well theres a terminator 4 in the works now. Maybe they'll 'dig it up' again.  |
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Post by Papillon78 on Feb 20, 2007 7:59:18 GMT -5
ah. Well theres a terminator 4 in the works now. Maybe they'll 'dig it up' again. He deserves it!! |
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Post by Acekicken on Feb 20, 2007 19:57:57 GMT -5
ah. Well theres a terminator 4 in the works now. Maybe they'll 'dig it up' again. I would love to hear him do a song on a soundtrack & even be in the film |
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Post by sandrin on Feb 22, 2007 9:49:33 GMT -5
About "Quicksand Jesus": in my opinion, it`s not only about war, but also about whole human life, about the strength of spirit. It`s a Skid Row`s phylosophical answer: how we should live this damned (or holy) life, without giving attention to all the obstacles that we should face...
"And all the fools sailed away..." Dio
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Post by geminiblue on Mar 6, 2007 0:28:53 GMT -5
I agree about the general meaning of the song, about how difficult it is to maintain your faith in this world, but I still can't for the life of me figure out why it sounds like they call Him 'Quicksand' Jesus. It sounds like such a negative adjective to apply to Him and yet the song is obviously glorifying Him. Living in this world and trying to cope with it may feel like we're in quicksand, but why call Him that?? Could someone please enlighten me?  I've been wondering about this for ages and was glad to see the question asked here. |
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Post by Metalbrat on Mar 6, 2007 2:14:54 GMT -5
It wasn't anything about 'Him' being 'quicksand' more like your going through hell, and looking for 'enlightenment' in the misery of war etc.. (it was written during the gulf war and was for 'faith').  |
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Post by geminiblue on Mar 6, 2007 3:55:36 GMT -5
It wasn't anything about 'Him' being 'quicksand' more like your going through hell, and looking for 'enlightenment' in the misery of war etc.. (it was written during the gulf war and was for 'faith'). OK, so I was looking at the grammatical meaning of the word 'quicksand' rather than allowing for 'poetic license'. It's more like: (I'm in) quicksand Jesus . . . . . . etc, the 'I'm in' bit being silent, obviously. I wonder how many other songs I've tied my mind up in knots over by taking the words too literally.  Guess I should just shut my mouth  |
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Post by Katkick on Mar 6, 2007 8:26:51 GMT -5
I wonder how many other songs I've tied my mind up in knots over by taking the words too literally. Guess I should just shut my mouth Naaaa .. don't do that! wasn't real sure at first either how the connection btwn. the two were made.. until I saw some posts here. |
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Post by Metalbrat on Mar 6, 2007 22:16:40 GMT -5
There's no reason to do that.  Songs may be written for one reason, but sometimes bring other thoughts and philosophies to mind. Thats what music is supposed to do. Bring different thoughts, feelings, etc., to the mind of the listener. |
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Post by sandrin on Mar 10, 2007 1:59:32 GMT -5
There's no reason to do that. Songs may be written for one reason, but sometimes bring other thoughts and philosophies to mind. Thats what music is supposed to do. Bring different thoughts, feelings, etc., to the mind of the listener. Well said. Completely agree with you |
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Post by savageanimal on Mar 10, 2007 5:35:10 GMT -5
But a song is different to each induvidual on earth :-\ So each person thinks different about a song
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Post by geminiblue on Mar 10, 2007 9:13:20 GMT -5
I guess the whole meaning behind the song could have been made more obvious if the video clip that was made for it depicted what Skid Row apparently wrote the song about i.e. keeping one's faith while going through the hell of war. But the video was nothing like that at all. Maybe that's what confused me.
Is that maybe the video director's interpretation of the song do you think? I would have assumed the band would have some say in what's in the video and want it to be in alignment with what they were trying to express. Or do you think that becomes the record company's decision?
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Post by Metalbrat on Mar 11, 2007 0:33:31 GMT -5
That you would have to ask Sebastian. But its prob. what the band wants at the time (prob. Snake and rachel). Sometimes songs mean different things at different times of life. "I remember you" written more for people who have split up. Like when my sister's fiance died of cancer, she couldn't listen to the song without crying. When Sebastian sang it live, she made it through in tears and we held on to each other and sang the words almost as loud as Sebastian with Sebastian right in front of us. That was a total healing moment for her. She gets through it better now, but it was a long time before she could . She played sebastian's music alot when her fiance was getting worse, (he wasn't a fan, but shared the love of the ramones that Baz did), and soon, liked sebastian's music. Sebastian's music helped in her healing as for so many of us. Thats all that matters really. |
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Post by geminiblue on Mar 11, 2007 9:08:28 GMT -5
That you would have to ask Sebastian. But its prob. what the band wants at the time (prob. Snake and rachel). Sometimes songs mean different things at different times of life. "I remember you" written more for people who have split up. Like when my sister's fiance died of cancer, she couldn't listen to the song without crying. When Sebastian sang it live, she made it through in tears and we held on to each other and sang the words almost as loud as Sebastian with Sebastian right in front of us. That was a total healing moment for her. She gets through it better now, but it was a long time before she could . She played sebastian's music alot when her fiance was getting worse, (he wasn't a fan, but shared the love of the ramones that Baz did), and soon, liked sebastian's music. Sebastian's music helped in her healing as for so many of us. Thats all that matters really. was a really sad, but uplifting, story Metalbrat. Thank you for sharing that with us and my heartfelt condolences to your brave sister. It's wonderful that Sebatian's music was able to help her healing in that way. Everyone would agree with that and, I'm sure, relate to what you're explaining by telling that story. I understand too, although I get the impression that you don't think I'm getting the points you are all so graciously trying to explain to me about music meaning different things to different people. I do get that. But, for what it's worth, I think I must just come from a different place when I'm listening to music that's performed by artists I admire. I really want to understand what it is they're trying to express - what's in their hearts when they write and perform the songs. I believe the songs are important to them and that they write them because they have something in their hearts and/or minds they want to share with us. So, out of respect for them, I like to know what that is and empathize with them and understand them a little bit better I guess. |
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Post by Katkick on Mar 11, 2007 20:36:19 GMT -5
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Post by geminiblue on Mar 12, 2007 7:41:34 GMT -5
WOW!! That's so political, especially how they used the 'bastard saints' bit!  I was wondering what Skid Row would have thought about the song being used this way, and then I saw Rachel's name at the end of it, so I wonder if he OKd it. Strange that Skid Row wasn't mentioned, or Sebastian as the singer. I'm still in shock! |
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Post by Katkick on Mar 12, 2007 10:57:31 GMT -5
'in shock' about the video or that Baz wasn't mentioned? or both [don't know about authenticity on many of the videos out there, I've seen at least a few that are questionable with the names attached] |
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Post by geminiblue on Mar 13, 2007 6:50:10 GMT -5
BOTH!!
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Post by savageanimal on Mar 13, 2007 9:11:04 GMT -5
Woow.. Pretty heavy video
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Post by Metalbrat on Mar 13, 2007 17:58:43 GMT -5
That you would have to ask Sebastian. But its prob. what the band wants at the time (prob. Snake and rachel). Sometimes songs mean different things at different times of life. "I remember you" written more for people who have split up. Like when my sister's fiance died of cancer, she couldn't listen to the song without crying. When Sebastian sang it live, she made it through in tears and we held on to each other and sang the words almost as loud as Sebastian with Sebastian right in front of us. That was a total healing moment for her. She gets through it better now, but it was a long time before she could . She played sebastian's music alot when her fiance was getting worse, (he wasn't a fan, but shared the love of the ramones that Baz did), and soon, liked sebastian's music. Sebastian's music helped in her healing as for so many of us. Thats all that matters really. was a really sad, but uplifting, story Metalbrat. Thank you for sharing that with us and my heartfelt condolences to your brave sister. It's wonderful that Sebatian's music was able to help her healing in that way. Everyone would agree with that and, I'm sure, relate to what you're explaining by telling that story. I understand too, although I get the impression that you don't think I'm getting the points you are all so graciously trying to explain to me about music meaning different things to different people. I do get that. But, for what it's worth, I think I must just come from a different place when I'm listening to music that's performed by artists I admire. I really want to understand what it is they're trying to express - what's in their hearts when they write and perform the songs. I believe the songs are important to them and that they write them because they have something in their hearts and/or minds they want to share with us. So, out of respect for them, I like to know what that is and empathize with them and understand them a little bit better I guess. I knew u understood. I just wanted everyone to realize that something that was written for one reason doesn't mean its 'set in stone'. but its cool that u wanted to know exactly what they felt and what they saw when writing the song. Didn't mean to misinterprete (sp?) anything. lol |
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I've been wondering about this for ages and was glad to see the question asked here.
Guess I should just shut my mouth 
Songs may be written for one reason, but sometimes bring other thoughts and philosophies to mind. Thats what music is supposed to do. Bring different thoughts, feelings, etc., to the mind of the listener. 