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Post by geminiblue on Jun 15, 2007 12:00:26 GMT -5
Just got home from the gig and figured the first thing I'd do is tell you all the set list. 1. Slave to the Grind 2. Big Guns 3. Here I Am 4. Stuck Inside 5. Piece of Me 6. 18 and Life 7. American Metalhead 8. Bitchslap 9. By Your Side (more on that later) 9. Monkey Business 10.You Don't Understand (dedicated to the troops fighting the war) 11. Beggars Day (Story in here) 12. I Remember You 13. Youth Gone Wild As regards the 'more on that later' etc. the night had a few dramas. They were going to do 'By Your Side' acoustically but apparently the guitar wasn't properly tuned, which Baz made it clear he wasn't happy about!!  So, I guess because of time limits, he decided to go straight into 'Monkey Business' rather than muck around. The 'story in here' bit refers to Baz being called to the side of the stage and having an animated conversation with a woman (I think). Next thing you know, he strides back onto the stage and says (I think), "I've just been told if I don't do 'I Remember You' right now, I've got to get off the stage!" Again Baz!! So that's what they did, followed by him saying they have time for one more song and going into (of course) 'Youth'. To add insult to injury (in my opinion) they began playing some crappy music and turned the lights up while Baz was saying his goodbyes to the crowd before he even left the stage!! I know it's short but it's late and I'm sure dogface probably has something to say as well. (Note: this review and the follow up one below were written with the focus on how the gig went for Sebastian - out of empathy for him. It is NOT a criticism of him or his performance - what songs he did or didn't do in any way. I would be happy listening to him singing anything - anything at all  ) |
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Post by geminiblue on Jun 15, 2007 12:02:36 GMT -5
Oh and I also got a cool 'Angel Down' T-shirt. I'll take some photos of it tomorrow and post them. There were two styles of the 'Angel Down' shirt available and one with just Sebastian on it. But I love my shirt. It's pretty cool. |
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Post by Acekicken on Jun 15, 2007 13:28:58 GMT -5
Great Review,I want to see the ANGEL DOWN T shirts!@@@@
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Post by savageanimal on Jun 15, 2007 15:24:00 GMT -5
Woow, seems like a bit weird show for Baz.. Soo bad for all you fans he didn't do By Your Side  I soo love that song |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2007 17:06:26 GMT -5
Maybe Axl is jealous of all the good reviews Baz is getting and got his set shortened  I was reading somewhere??? that they have a curfew for Melbourne and that the promoters paid the fines in advance because they knew the concert would break it - I think that was all it was - pretty rude to interrupt the show though. |
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Post by AussieGirl on Jun 15, 2007 20:29:11 GMT -5
Thank you Gemini for posting straight away it must have been late by the time you got home. and a great review for what ever hour of the morning it was when you got home.
Wow I cannot believe they cut his set short, Love to be a fly on the wall so we could know what happened weather it was an Axl tantrum or Venue time limits what ever the drama was, mind you the lights being turned up while Baz was on stage would not have been bad LOL the music would have sucked how rude is that. I feel for you not hearing by your side though. that sucks.
Glad you got a T shirt cannot wait to see it.....
Dogface looking forward to your review...... bet you are all sound asleep at the moment.
Anyone going to tonight's show???
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Post by AussieGirl on Jun 15, 2007 20:37:00 GMT -5
Review from the Age
Axl rises to the occasion for triumphant return
With his braided red hair, leather jacket and dark sunglasses, Axl Rose was every inch the rock star at the Rod Laver Arena last night.
A DUBIOUS chapter in Australian rock history came full circle last night when US rock group Guns N' Roses returned to Melbourne after a 14 year gap.
With the crowd warmed up by energetic sets from Sydney hard rockers Rose Tattoo and Sebastian Bach from Skid Row, Guns N'Roses hit the stage in an explosion of flames with what the anthem of the night, Welcome to the Jungle.
All the old classics followed: It's So Easy, Mr Brownstone, and they dropped in a couple of new songs, including Better, which plodded at first but built into a reassuring, classic Guns N'Roses rock anthem.
The band needed eight players to replicate the sound of the four original band members, but they still oozed the sound of Los Angeles' dark seedy underbelly.
They may have lacked the old chemistry, but this was clearly Axl Rose's show.
With his braided red hair and dark sunglasses, the singer made the crowd feel like no time had passed since their last visit, as he "snake-hipped" and jived his way around the stage.
You can always expected the unexpected with Guns N' Roses, the self-appointed "most dangerous band in the world".
Usually bands playing the arena have to finish up before the 11pm curfew or face fines. For these shows, promoter Paul Dainty paid the fines upfront because Rose — a notorious night owl — refuses to start before 11pm.
Rose is the only original member of the band playing this weekend. After the band split in 1996, he became a Phil Spector-esque recluse, retreating to his Malibu mansion, filled with snakes, religious paraphernalia and weaponry, working away on the band's much-anticipated new album Chinese Democracy.
That album — reportedly 13 years and $US14 million ($A16.7 million) in the making — is yet to appear, although a couple of its songs have appeared in shows.
Guns N'Roses' last Melbourne gig was the sweltering 1993 Australia Day Calder Park show before 70,000 fans. That show was marred by controversy after fans were forced to queue for hours for water and toilets, and many were stranded without public transport.
Last night was a far more civilised affair, mainly because a sell-out crowd of about 12,000 only had to venture to the Rod Laver Arena.
Hardcore fans, many who were returning 14 years later, lined up in the dense fog from 7pm. Dave Pearce, 36, said he enjoyed the smaller queue but still fondly recalled the Calder Park experience.
"You don't care about all that when you're 21," said Pearce, who avoided the Calder traffic jams by sleeping in his car. "But it would be different now at my age and in winter."
"It was our Woodstock," added his mate Dave Ferns, 36.
The band play the Rod Laver Arena again tonight. Tickets are still available.
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Post by kells bells on Jun 15, 2007 22:03:46 GMT -5
gee that really sucks for you guys & sebastian.
i hope that tonight goes better for him!!
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Post by bob on Jun 15, 2007 22:41:05 GMT -5
Review from the AgeAxl rises to the occasion for triumphant return With his braided red hair, leather jacket and dark sunglasses, Axl Rose was every inch the rock star at the Rod Laver Arena last night. A DUBIOUS chapter in Australian rock history came full circle last night when US rock group Guns N' Roses returned to Melbourne after a 14 year gap. With the crowd warmed up by energetic sets from Sydney hard rockers Rose Tattoo and Sebastian Bach from Skid Row, Guns N'Roses hit the stage in an explosion of flames with what the anthem of the night, Welcome to the Jungle. All the old classics followed: It's So Easy, Mr Brownstone, and they dropped in a couple of new songs, including Better, which plodded at first but built into a reassuring, classic Guns N'Roses rock anthem. The band needed eight players to replicate the sound of the four original band members, but they still oozed the sound of Los Angeles' dark seedy underbelly. They may have lacked the old chemistry, but this was clearly Axl Rose's show. With his braided red hair and dark sunglasses, the singer made the crowd feel like no time had passed since their last visit, as he "snake-hipped" and jived his way around the stage. You can always expected the unexpected with Guns N' Roses, the self-appointed "most dangerous band in the world". Usually bands playing the arena have to finish up before the 11pm curfew or face fines. For these shows, promoter Paul Dainty paid the fines upfront because Rose — a notorious night owl — refuses to start before 11pm. Rose is the only original member of the band playing this weekend. After the band split in 1996, he became a Phil Spector-esque recluse, retreating to his Malibu mansion, filled with snakes, religious paraphernalia and weaponry, working away on the band's much-anticipated new album Chinese Democracy. That album — reportedly 13 years and $US14 million ($A16.7 million) in the making — is yet to appear, although a couple of its songs have appeared in shows. Guns N'Roses' last Melbourne gig was the sweltering 1993 Australia Day Calder Park show before 70,000 fans. That show was marred by controversy after fans were forced to queue for hours for water and toilets, and many were stranded without public transport. Last night was a far more civilised affair, mainly because a sell-out crowd of about 12,000 only had to venture to the Rod Laver Arena. Hardcore fans, many who were returning 14 years later, lined up in the dense fog from 7pm. Dave Pearce, 36, said he enjoyed the smaller queue but still fondly recalled the Calder Park experience. "You don't care about all that when you're 21," said Pearce, who avoided the Calder traffic jams by sleeping in his car. "But it would be different now at my age and in winter." "It was our Woodstock," added his mate Dave Ferns, 36. The band play the Rod Laver Arena again tonight. Tickets are still available. Gluttons for abuse. Sounds great for a CD title huh? Come on..it sounds right up there with Appetite For Destruction |
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Post by sandra on Jun 16, 2007 1:34:18 GMT -5
Hmmmmmmmmm....
It was for sure not the best night for the fans and Baz,
but such things can sometimes happens.
they are all normally people them can happen mistakes.
It's clear that Baz not was happy about that the guitar wasn't properly tuned
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Post by geminiblue on Jun 16, 2007 2:16:17 GMT -5
OK here are some photos of the Angel Down T-Shirt I got. Wish I would have got the other one too now. Maybe next time They were $45.00 each, and I didn't see any other Seb merch other than the T-Shirts. Very cool!! ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by geminiblue on Jun 16, 2007 3:06:45 GMT -5
OK more about the show now I've got all the basics covered. I know I probably made it sound bad but I was just so angry at the way Seb was treated that that was uppermost in my mind when I got home and at 2:30am I just didn't have the energy to add everything I would've liked to. I knew dogface would have good things to say too (which he has in General Mayhem - great review ). But, needless to say, Seb still put on a great show for everyone despite the problems he had trying to do so. You all know how great a performer he is without me having to say it again!! Cocky to the max!! ;D But one thing I would like to add is this. I don't know why his set was seemingly cut short - - OK, I believe Axl was being a bitch too, maybe jealous or whatever - - but, given he did have the problems he did, he was totally vindicated later on in the night. Guns'N'Roses started off really big, brazen and loud but during the middle of the show, with all the guitar solos and the piano one with just a few songs here and there in between, I for one got a bit bored. And I could see others in the audience did too. It made you miss the energy Seb had created in the room with his set and which Guns had taken advantage of with the start of their show, building on it even more with all the lighting effects, huge sound, video screens and pyros (none of which Seb had). I reckon others felt the same because when Seb came back out to do his 'My Michelle' duet with Axl, the crowd really did erupt. And, he outsang Axl with every note!! It was the best I've ever heard him sing 'My Michelle' - note perfect and he did take over the stage. To my mind, if there was anything nasty behind Seb's set being curtailed, that five minutes there showed everyone who the Man, the true professional on the night, really was. |
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Post by Dogface on Jun 16, 2007 3:24:19 GMT -5
Thats EXACTLY what I thought too...My Michelle was amazing and it just proved how brilliant Sebastian is in front of a big crowd on the big stage. He blew Axl away...I know he dosent like us dissing Axl, and im not, it was just so obvious for everyone in that room to see though.
And great stuff Geminiblue thats the same TShirt I got.....I reckon YOU have just given everyone on this Board a WORLD FIRST EXCLUSIVE there, so congrats..ya beat me to it hahahah!!!
I was upset for Baz that he was copping a bit of flack from someone side of stage during his set, but I just thought he handled the whole thing professionally and considered the fans that were there to see him. He could have stormed off...but he didnt, and im so glad he didnt.
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Post by jojo711 on Jun 16, 2007 3:33:31 GMT -5
BUT WHY ON EARTH WAS HE CUT SHORT LIKE THAT??? THAT TOTALLY SUCKS AND TURNING THE LIGHTS UP AND WITH CRAPPY MUSIC TO BOOT WHEN HE WAS SAYING HIS GOODBYES YEAH I AGREE THAT WAS JUST RUDE! SORRY FOR BAZ AND THE GUYS BUT MAINLY TO THE FANS WHO NOT ONLY PAID TO SEE AXL BUT SEBASTIAN AS WELL. BY YOUR SIDE IS AN AMAZING BEAUTIFUL SONG IT'S JUST TOO BAD YOU GUYS HAD TO MISS OUT ON THAT ONE. I HOPE TODAY IS A BETTER SHOW FOR EVERYONE. JOJO |
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Post by jojo711 on Jun 16, 2007 3:34:39 GMT -5
COOL SHIRT BTW GEMINI!  jojo |
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Post by geminiblue on Jun 16, 2007 3:50:12 GMT -5
Thats EXACTLY what I thought too...My Michelle was amazing and it just proved how brilliant Sebastian is in front of a big crowd on the big stage. He blew Axl away...I know he dosent like us dissing Axl, and im not, it was just so obvious for everyone in that room to see though. And great stuff Geminiblue thats the same TShirt I got.....I reckon YOU have just given everyone on this Board a WORLD FIRST EXCLUSIVE there, so congrats..ya beat me to it hahahah!!! I was upset for Baz that he was copping a bit of flack from someone side of stage during his set, but I just thought he handled the whole thing professionally and considered the fans that were there to see him. He could have stormed off...but he didnt, and im so glad he didnt.Yeah, I'm SOOOOOOOOOO glad he didn't too! I never thought and that.  Any ideas about the symbology on the T-Shirt. I can't figure out the statue in the bottom right corner - what he's holding. Do you think it could be one of his Dad's paintings? Does anyone know if it's the artwork for the CD cover??? |
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Post by Dogface on Jun 16, 2007 5:10:24 GMT -5
That was my next question....are we seeing the Artwork for the Album Cover on this TShirt??
I think it could be....!!
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Post by kells bells on Jun 16, 2007 5:53:49 GMT -5
OK more about the show now I've got all the basics covered. I know I probably made it sound bad but I was just so angry at the way Seb was treated that that was uppermost in my mind when I got home and at 2:30am I just didn't have the energy to add everything I would've liked to. I knew dogface would have good things to say too (which he has in General Mayhem - great review ). But, needless to say, Seb still put on a great show for everyone despite the problems he had trying to do so. You all know how great a performer he is without me having to say it again!! Cocky to the max!! ;D But one thing I would like to add is this. I don't know why his set was seemingly cut short - - OK, I believe Axl was being a bitch too, maybe jealous or whatever - - but, given he did have the problems he did, he was totally vindicated later on in the night. Guns'N'Roses started off really big, brazen and loud but during the middle of the show, with all the guitar solos and the piano one with just a few songs here and there in between, I for one got a bit bored. And I could see others in the audience did too. It made you miss the energy Seb had created in the room with his set and which Guns had taken advantage of with the start of their show, building on it even more with all the lighting effects, huge sound, video screens and pyros (none of which Seb had). I reckon others felt the same because when Seb came back out to do his 'My Michelle' duet with Axl, the crowd really did erupt. And, he outsang Axl with every note!! It was the best I've ever heard him sing 'My Michelle' - note perfect and he did take over the stage. To my mind, if there was anything nasty behind Seb's set being curtailed, that five minutes there showed everyone who the Man, the true professional on the night, really was. its funny, i thought the same thing about the adelaide show, sebastiaan has so much more energy than everyone else ive seen perform. he also really connects with the crowd. i hope tonight goes really well for him |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2007 6:01:10 GMT -5
I think it must be the cover art to. The shirt must of been printed very recently because all the extra shows they added for the Australia tour have been put on it. I ordered a cd from Baz ebay shop which I got last Thursday and it had a newsletter dated 23 March 07 which said the front and back cover artwork for the new cd was done.
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Post by sandra on Jun 16, 2007 6:18:23 GMT -5
OK here are some photos of the Angel Down T-Shirt I got. Wish I would have got the other one too now. Maybe next time They were $45.00 each, and I didn't see any other Seb merch other than the T-Shirts. Very cool!! ;D ;D ;D ;D Cool shirt!!! I also will buy it if it's avaiable in his shop. Hardly can wait for it. |
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Post by gunsnmotley on Jun 16, 2007 7:29:22 GMT -5
that must be the cover art! wonder what the symbology means..
kinda remminds me of a Black Sabbath cover
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Post by Acekicken on Jun 16, 2007 8:48:44 GMT -5
OK here are some photos of the Angel Down T-Shirt I got. Wish I would have got the other one too now. Maybe next time They were $45.00 each, and I didn't see any other Seb merch other than the T-Shirts. Very cool!! ;D ;D ;D ;D Is this the CD cover?  ? |
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Post by Acekicken on Jun 16, 2007 9:01:11 GMT -5
OK here are some photos of the Angel Down T-Shirt I got. Wish I would have got the other one too now. Maybe next time They were $45.00 each, and I didn't see any other Seb merch other than the T-Shirts. Very cool!! ;D ;D ;D ;D Did the other T shirt have a differnt pic? |
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Post by geminiblue on Jun 16, 2007 22:54:17 GMT -5
Yes it did Ace. It had a really cool picture of Seb on it and was all done in the same brownish tones as the one above. The picture was like a shot you would take of him if you were down below him while he's singing on stage with his legs spread wide. So it's sort of an elongated triangle shape and you can't really see his face. It also has Angel Down and Sebastian Bach printed on it, above and below and there's a little artwork on it, top and bottom. Really cool. Wish I had've got it. But I wanted this one, assuming that it is the artwork of the CD. Maybe aussiegirl, or someone else going to the next shows will buy it and put it up here for us all to see. |
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Post by Katkick on Jun 17, 2007 0:03:40 GMT -5
Thats EXACTLY what I thought too...My Michelle was amazing and it just proved how brilliant Sebastian is in front of a big crowd on the big stage. He blew Axl away...I know he dosent like us dissing Axl, and im not, it was just so obvious for everyone in that room to see though. And great stuff Geminiblue thats the same TShirt I got.....I reckon YOU have just given everyone on this Board a WORLD FIRST EXCLUSIVE there, so congrats..ya beat me to it hahahah!!! I was upset for Baz that he was copping a bit of flack from someone side of stage during his set, but I just thought he handled the whole thing professionally and considered the fans that were there to see him. He could have stormed off...but he didnt, and im so glad he didnt.Yeah, I'm SOOOOOOOOOO glad he didn't too! I never thought and that. Any ideas about the symbology on the T-Shirt. I can't figure out the statue in the bottom right corner - what he's holding. Do you think it could be one of his Dad's paintings? Does anyone know if it's the artwork for the CD cover??? The statue looks like Michelagelo's 'David' I own the bust and cannot remember the rest of that statue. Not sure what he's holding. BTW gemini, how was the sound from where you were sitting this time? AND.. love love love the T-shirt you and dogface have. The back tour dates look really cool as well. |
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Post by geminiblue on Jun 17, 2007 0:41:29 GMT -5
The statue looks like Michelagelo's 'David' I own the bust and cannot remember the rest of that statue. BTW gemini, how was the sound from where you were sitting this time? AND.. love love love the T-shirt you and dogface have. The back tour dates look really cool as well. I think you're right Kat! These are some photos of David I found. Still not sure what he's holding but I guess it really doesn't matter  Edit: Found out he's holding the stone in the slingshot that he supposedly used to slay Goliath!    The sound was great from where we were sitting this time and I had a really good view as well, my seat being right on the aisle and on a slight angle to the stage. Even when everyone else was up and jumping around I could still see the stage clearly, which is usually a problem for me as I'm only 5' 2" lol. |
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Post by AussieGirl on Jun 17, 2007 8:05:04 GMT -5
Gemini I want both shirts too, but I think my husband would kill me if I spent $90 on shirts, I really like yours and I am wanting that but then I need to show every one else the other one too and maybe I will like it more, who am I kidding I want BOTH hey do you think the people at merchandise counter will let me take a photo of Both LOL. I am so excited cannot wait till Brisbane
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Post by geminiblue on Jun 17, 2007 8:19:56 GMT -5
Gemini I want both shirts too, but I think my husband would kill me if I spent $90 on shirts, I really like yours and I am wanting that but then I need to show every one else the other one too and maybe I will like it more, who am I kidding I want BOTH hey do you think the people at merchandise counter will let me take a photo of Both LOL. I am so excited cannot wait till Brisbane Yeah wait till you see the other one aussiegirl. It really is cool and I was torn too. I bought the one I did because I knew everyone on the Board would love to see it, given that it probably is the cover of the new album. I should've known that dogface would get it as well, being 'more suitable' for the guys, shall we say. Then we could have had photos up of both. Oh well. I'm lucky I've got ONE! |
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Post by bob on Jun 17, 2007 11:32:05 GMT -5
It had nothing to do with Sebastian.
When does Bobby come back behind the kit?
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Post by Katkick on Jun 17, 2007 21:38:09 GMT -5
hey! - thanks for the pictures of 'David' gemini! - serious statue! (and thanks for finding out what he was holding)- soo cool!-- You were right .. we all enjoy seeing this t-shirt - totally cool 
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So, I guess because of time limits, he decided to go straight into 'Monkey Business' rather than muck around.
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